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Artificial Intelligence.. Dangerous or useful?
« on: October 11, 2018, 04:13:08 PM »
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What are your thoughts on the development and use of AI. What are the implications in regards to the industries you currently work in? I read an interesting article in Business Insider regarding the use of AI in organizations and the dangers that come with it.

"Yet one thing is clear and remains in our power: artificial intelligence, will never substitute for human wisdom or moral responsibility."

What are your thoughts on this quote? Are we getting over our ski's on this one? I would love to here some thoughts.


Here is the article for reference: https://www.businessinsider.com/sap-executive-on-ai-ethics-2018-10
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Hayden

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Re: Artificial Intelligence.. Dangerous or useful?
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2018, 12:30:25 PM »
Interesting article and definitely important to think about. I am long SAP and work in biotech, have a lot of thoughts on this but a few key points to me are:
  • AI is a tool
  • like other tools, it perpetuates ethical choices made by its designers
  • we rarely consider how our own biases affect the tools we create
  • an external ethics advisory panel + internal steering committee is a good idea; sustaining the process and giving it teeth is a tough job that will require constant support from management
The cynic in me thinks that the first time this panel advises delaying a ship date in order to address ethical concerns, they will get ignored, rendering the whole thing pointless.

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Re: Artificial Intelligence.. Dangerous or useful?
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2020, 11:27:54 AM »
I'm in school for technology and will be done in March 2021. I had a discussion weeks ago about AI and it's ethical implications. There's warfare, privacy, and employment considerations.

There's reasons to be concerned and I've read a fair amount of information. Bottom line is there are intelligent people like Elon Musk and Bill Gates that think AI can eventually overpower humanity. With that being said there are organizations and individuals that are devoted to incorporating safeguards into AI.

There's also reason to be optimistic. Ray Kurzweil believes in the singularity which is when man converges with machine. I have Peter Diamandis on my reading list as well.

Relevant books:
"Our Final Invention" by James Barrat
"How to Create a Mind" by Ray Kurzweil
"I have no Mouth and I Must Scream" by Harlan Elison
"Big Brain" by Gary Lynch
"Abundance The Future Is Better Than You Think" by Peter Diamandis
"The Future Is Faster Than You Think" by Peter Diamandis
"Out of Control" by Kevin Kelly
"Superintelligence" by Nick Bostrom
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Re: Artificial Intelligence.. Dangerous or useful?
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2020, 01:27:55 PM »
By the end of the week, I'll have a book review of Big Brain by Gary Lynch. I have no neuroscience background aside from making a couple neural nets in my coding school. I'll be making associations with other readings and videos I've seen. Stay tuned!
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2020, 08:26:05 AM »
Big Brain: The Origins and Future of Human Intelligence by Gary Lynch Review

As some of you may know I started programming about 12 months ago. Artificial Intelligence is an expanding field and one way to advance the field is to understand how the brain works. I'm in a perfect position to share my thoughts on this book and whether or not you may be interested in reading it as well. I have no background in neuroscience and I would classify this book as a bottom up approach to learning about the brain. I have created a neural network in school and understand how neurons work (top down approach). A way to understand this type of learning is to tell someone to play soccer instead of sit them down and explain the ball's friction to the grass and where the shin guards are made.

Key quote:
“Our job in this book is to use knowledge of skulls, genes, brains, and minds, those of ourselves, those of other extant animals such as chimps, and even those of artificial creations such as robots, to extrapolate the likely contents of the brains of Boskops, and, from their brains, to surmise their mental lives.”

General takeaway I got from this book is the brain has been impacted by evolution. As a student this is similar to the technology sector since technologies are advancing and dying all the time. In chapter 3 the author pointed out programmers writing up AI programs and not succeeding. Since this book was written in 2008 technology has greatly advanced. There's discussions about how the brain works and Boskops, a species that supposedly lived alongside homo sapiens.

Similar reads:
How to Create a Mind by Ray Kurzweil
Impossible to Ignore by Carmen Simon
The Singularity is Near by Ray Kurzweil
Our Final Invention by James Barrat

Similar videos:
Karl Friston: Neuroscience and the Free Energy Principle | AI Podcast #99 with Lex Fridman
"Uncle" Bob Martin - "The Future of Programming"
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Re: Artificial Intelligence.. Dangerous or useful?
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2020, 03:58:08 AM »
I'm currently going through Abundance: The Future is Better than you Think by Peter H. Diamandis. There's some information on AI. I hope to have a book review ready by the end of the week.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2020, 11:40:57 AM »
I just finished Abundance by Peter Diamandis and Steven Kotler. Overall, it's an optimistic perspective on the future. A theme that's constantly hammered is in America, even the lower classes have better living standards than the wealthy decades ago. The authors believe technology is improving the living standards of the world and that it will lead to increased happiness. There's a Maslow hierarchy of needs like water, education, energy, and food. There's some potentially controversial topics the authors use to bolster their needs hierarchy like GMOs, criticism of the education system in general, and nuclear energy.

To relate the book to this particular thread, AI is mentioned where it can be used to save lives for drivers and analyze health problems to lower medical costs. Overall, the book was thought provoking and worth the effort reading it.
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2020, 09:54:28 AM »
I'm a member of this AI meetup group. There's usually about 40-50 people that attend virtually. I understand it's based in LA and I'm in Chicago but for the time being you can attend virtually and learn more about how the future is shaping.

https://www.meetup.com/AI-LA-Meetup/

The format is:
* Listen to keynote speaker.
* Breakout rooms for small group discussion.
* Discuss in larger group what we talked about.

This was yesterday's event:
https://www.meetup.com/AI-LA-Meetup/events/271820579/

I learned some new concepts like how AI can be used to train athletes as well as help people emotionally.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence.. Dangerous or useful?
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2020, 11:16:27 AM »
I'm currently reading Peter Diamandis' The Future is Faster than you Think.

There's some information about AI and the thesis of the book seems to be technology will converge and advance humanity beyond its limits. In the same vein as his Abundance book it's positive. I want to finish the book up by Tuesday.

I have other books in my reading queue like The Rational Optimist and Democratic Capitalism at the Crossroads.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence.. Dangerous or useful?
« Reply #9 on: Today at 02:13:46 PM »
New LA AI virtual event tomorrow, you don't have to be in LA to attend this.

Are Machines Conscious? Debating AI's Final Frontier

https://www.meetup.com/AI-LA-Meetup/events/271634036/

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