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Started by Sam, July 26, 2018, 12:14:04 PM
Quote from: defomcduff on September 09, 2018, 06:22:55 PMThe best book I've read on this is by economist Bryan Caplan, Selfish Reasons To Have More Kids, where he outlines a ton of twin studies and resulting implications for nature nurture.Bottom line from the book, based on the twin studies (comparing identical twins with identical nature + nurture with fraternal twins with identical nurture but varying nature):Nature matters more for achievement, success, income, education. Let's say 70/30 nature.Nurture matters more for politics, religion, behavior (drinking, sex). Let's say 70/30 nurture.Caplan has the (somewhat unorthodox) view that because nature matters so much for the things we usually stress out about as parents (achievement, success, income, education), parents should stop worrying so much and have more kids. I don't know if I'd go that far, but the science is worth knowing about.DeForestEconDad.com
Quote from: Julie on September 09, 2018, 10:16:06 PMI think it is 60/40 or 70/30. My first child was born with a genetic mutation that causes intellectual disability, seizures and a host of other things you wouldn't wish for child. Because of this, I've learned a lot about genetics over the last 10 years and they play a strong role in everything from intelligence, disposition, health and even mood and mental health. Because we also spend a good amount of time with child psychologist, psychiatrists and neurologists we can see the huge difference that nurture can make. Nurture can help someone reach their greatest potential. All that to say that I feel nature determines potential and nurture or lack thereof often times (not all) determines where someone may land on that potential. Also, I just watched Far From the Tree, highly recommend.
Quote from: defomcduff on September 10, 2018, 06:53:38 AMDespite what some of the social science data show, it still *feels* like we have an impact as parents. So we shouldn't ignore that, and definitely keep with our instinct to work hard raising motivated, high-achieving kids.Both Bryan Caplan (mostly nature) and Amy Chua (Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mom, mostly nurture) have valid perspectives, so we want to take both seriously.All just trying to do our best as parents!
Quote from: Sam on September 10, 2018, 07:09:17 AMThe thing is... with all that education, what exactly are people going to do with their lives that will be so special? Related: https://www.financialsamurai.com/what-if-you-go-to-harvard-and-end-up-a-nobody/Quote from: defomcduff on September 10, 2018, 06:53:38 AMDespite what some of the social science data show, it still *feels* like we have an impact as parents. So we shouldn't ignore that, and definitely keep with our instinct to work hard raising motivated, high-achieving kids.Both Bryan Caplan (mostly nature) and Amy Chua (Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mom, mostly nurture) have valid perspectives, so we want to take both seriously.All just trying to do our best as parents!
Quote from: Leigh on September 10, 2018, 02:28:39 PMI believe it is a combination of both.Nature gives the capacity to learn and nurture gives the resources.If you took a child with a genius IQ and gave no stimulation, no expanded learning, I believe that child wouldn't live up to the potential, the amazing heights should that child be given extra opportunities. I was taking my kids to plays, concerts, parks, cooking classes, fishing, shrimping, beaches, mountain climbing, desert hiking all before they were ten years old. I believed in sowing into their growing brains as much as possible while the opportunity is there because once they go into that deep dark hole call the teen years, you become less of an influence.