Long term investing is hard without discipline. One of the biggest problems I consistently observe is people’s inability to control their spending once they start making money or a lot more money.
We all know someone who is making the big bucks, yet is just living paycheck to paycheck (see: Scraping By On $500,000 A Year). After three months of grueling work out of college, I decided to buy a new used car. Not only did I get a car that was parked several subway stops away for $200/month, I also got a brand new motorbike!
What kind of 23-year-old dumb ass idiot buys a car and a motorbike when the subway system in Manhattan is so efficient? My base salary was only $40,000 and I was trying to save money by living in a studio with my high school friend. But I couldn’t help but buy the two things I always wanted since high school. Thankfully, I got a bonus which allowed me to max out my 401k and save something extra. But I could have saved much more.
After I left Manhattan for a competing firm in San Francisco two years later, I promised to start fresh and seriously clamp down on my spending. I got word my job was at risk due to the dotcom collapse, so I felt I had dodged a bullet by escaping the east coast.
Disciplined Investing
After two years of working in banking, I knew I wouldn’t be able to last for an entire career. Therefore, I saved like a madman. 100% of each bonus was invested. And my spending was kept to a minimum by living in a crappy 2 bedroom, 1 bathroom apartment at the edge of SF’s Chinatown with a mentally disturbed person I met on Craigslist. I eventually got a car, but it was a seven-year-old Honda Civic I bought off my mom for $7,200.
Based on my consumption habits in Manhattan, I knew I wouldn’t be able to properly control my spending once I started making more money as an Associate and beyond. Therefore, I began investing ~20% of my after 401k savings in 5-7 year CDs, ~50% in real estate, ~10% in private equity, and the remaining ~20% in stocks each year.
Because I worked in the financial services industry, it was important to diversify from just stocks given my career and compensation were closely linked to the performance of the stock market. But what I realized about my stock investments was that I didn’t have the patience to hold onto securities long enough to make meaningful returns.
Instead, I would buy and sell stocks to the point where the department head called me into a meeting to ask whether I had a trading problem. Apparently, I racked up $12 million in trading volume one year compared to the next highest employee who traded $5 million in trading volume!
I apologized for my behavior, even though it was perfectly within the rules to day trade index ETFs, and promised to focus on my career instead. That meeting with the department head was the turning point to start investing everything outside of my 401k into private investments and real estate. If I had continued trading so aggressively, I probably would have been laid off.
As I look back on my investments, the biggest returns are those that I’ve held the longest. San Francisco real estate is up about 5-6% a year un-levered since I first invested in 2003. With a 20% downpayment, we’re talking a 25% – 30% a year return. Then there was my 10-year investment in Bulldog Gin that has annualized an estimated 15% annual rate of return. Finally, there’s a 7-year duration mortgage backed securities fund I was forced to invest in during the crisis that has annualized 24.5% a year.
The S&P 500 has annualized roughly 7% – 10% including dividends since the beginning. Not bad in comparison, but actually not as good as any of my real estate or private equity investments. Sure, investing in the S&P 500 has potentially less risk (still went down big in the crisis), with pure liquidity. But who knows, I may have panic sold during the downturn since it’s so easy to click some buttons to get rid of a position. Plenty of people sold and never recovered!
Related: The Inflation Interest Rate Paradox: Why You Must Continuously Invest
Saving Yourself From Yourself
Investing in private funds, long-term CDs, and private companies basically saved me from myself. I still ended up hurting my net worth with my vacation property purchase in 2007, but it could have been much worse. When there is a 7 – 10 year duration for each investment you end up doing the following:
1) Tighten up spending. The more you accumulate, the more tempted you will be to spend the money sitting in your bank account. When you lock money up in a long-term investment knowing there’s a penalty for early withdrawal, you won’t go blowing it on a ridiculously priced car, a crotch rocket, or other superfluous things you don’t need. The feeling is similar to purposefully making yourself poor in order to stay disciplined. Compared to the typical consumer who spends most of what s/he makes, you’re not only not spending, but you’re also likely earning a return that will create a widening wealth gap over time.
2) Staying calm during a downturn. When you’re locked in, there’s nothing you can do. As a landlord, your main concern is receiving a steady rent check. It’s too hard to sell property in a cratering market. As a private equity investor, you’re mainly concerned about whether your company makes it past the dip. Luckily for Bulldog Gin, they were able to raise another round of financing after the crisis. With CDs, you’re just collecting your guaranteed income. When you know you can’t sell with ease, the panic starts to disappear.
3) Experiencing windfall surprises. Given your investments are so long ago, you tend to forget about them. When the funds finally expire or your private equity investment finally has a liquidity event, it’s kind of like winning the lottery because you’ve been living without such funds all this time. In Feb 2014, I had a nice six figure windfall because of an expiring 5-year CD. I used $260,000 of it for a downpayment on my Golden Gate Heights fixer. If I didn’t have that windfall, I don’t think I could have afforded my current home, which would be a crying shame because I love the place so much.
The surprise windfall is a very similar feeling to getting a “surprise” tax refund. Even though the money has always been yours to begin with, it still feels nice when the money finally returns home. With long-term investing, the feeling is even better due to a return.
For those who are undisciplined with money, I highly suggest looking for investments where you can lock your money away for years. Not only will you quickly adapt to living without such funds, you’ll also get motivated to earn more money to make up for your lower liquidity. When it’s finally time to collect, you probably won’t even need the money!
Here are some examples of long term investments I’ve held:
* Two Venture Debt funds expiring in 2020 – 2026.
* Various zero coupon municipal bonds expiring in 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 with a 3% – 4% yield.
* 4.1% yielding, 7-year CD expiring in 2018.
* 3.75% yielding, 7-year CD expiring end of 2017.
* RealtyShares Diversified Marketplace Equity fund expiring in 2021 with a 8% preferred return and 15% target IRR.
* Looking for more ideas. Maybe the 5-year Fundrise Heartland eREIT or a venture capital fund to find the next Snapchat.
The goal is to consistently lock my money up each year to create a perpetual windfall machine. It’s been years since I last went on a foolish spending spree. But as I enter my 40s, I’m afraid my old habits will return!
Readers, do you find it difficult holding on to public investments during difficult times? Do you have a propensity to spend your raises and year-end bonuses instead of investing the money? What are your best long term investments and how do you control yourself from trading too much?
I remember the 2008 crash fondly (in regards to stocks only!). I had just started my first 401(k) and thankfully had the frame of mind to realize that buying cheap now will pay off big in the future.
My then manager was clueless and stopped all of her 401(k) contributions. She was the Finance Manager btw. There was no argument that could have convinced her that she shouldn’t pull out of the market. The market was down so she stopped investing.
There always seems to be a lot of chatter about the next crash being around the corner. I look at the possibility as a way to further prop up my retirement savings by buying as much as I can while the market is down. And I’m wondering how many people need to be saved from themselves during the next downturn.
I have to share that it is MUCH easier to hold on and invest if you start out with not too much. It is much more difficult to continue doing the same thing if you’ve got a large 401k.
You’ve seen a fantastic rise since you started contributing. A key is to never confuse brains with a bull market, b/c all markets have correction periods!
I try to make myself “feel” poor by getting things into investments as quickly as possible because so many things are tempting. If the money is not in my bank account, I can’t spend it. Helps a ton.
Good article Sam. While purportedly not as efficient as indexing, this is one of the reasons why I chose to move from indexing to diversified portfolio of dividend stocks, with a sectoral tilt towards defensive more than what S&P 500 has. I compare the two investing strategies on my website. At the 2000 and 2008 recessions, I felt sick to my stomach to see my index funds decline so much but thankfully did not sell, so that saved me when the recovery happened. Those were the times I noticed the defensive stocks declined less than the index, so I see this as more conservative strategy than pure indexing. Of course, a potential downside is you may have less gains than index during a raging bull market. That’s ok if your nest egg is large enough to support your income needs, you don’t need to chase high total returns.
Long term investing really is the only advantage that the individual investor has over the big guys. Information, access, better technology and fancy accounting all favor the professional. The need to make quarterly numbers is their only handicap.
If you can focus on what you need your investments to do for you and your specific situation it helps to block out the market noise that may deter you from your path. Certainly “locking up” money that you don’t have an immediate need for so that there is a large barrier to access is a way to do this. Unfortunately I think most people don’t get far enough or to a big enough nut to make these kinds of investments possible or worthwhile.
The best and most basic advice that actually helps is having a written plan. Thought about at a clear and calm time with the intent to refer back to it when the market is not going your way.
It’s easy to think “I’ll diversify and buy more when the market tanks 40%” is different then having a written plan that says: the market WILL tank 40% at some point and at that time your actions will be x, y and z because that meets these needs and achieves these goals for you.
I don’t know what’s more mind blowing: your salary just starting out as an investment banker (I’ve heard stories of people making six figures a year out of college), or how you were able to get such high rates on CDs opened 2010-2011.
One thing I’ve noticed is that, more than a downturn, people can’t stomach a lack of liquidity. I’ll see folks with $200,000 in their savings account that won’t put $75,000 into a fixed annuity because “I don’t want to lock up my money”. This is in spite of the principal guarantee and ability to liquidate their annuity at anytime without principal penalty.
Great article, Sam! If only our consumerist culture focused less on consumption and more on long term investment.
Sincerely,
ARB–Angry Retail Banker
Yes, we tend to be our own worst enemies. Luckily, you learned this lesson at a young age and were able to make the necessary changes to save you from yourself. I love the honesty in this post and I’m sure it is something a lot of us can relate to. Have access and ability to trade funds regularly was not working for you, so you found a new way to invest, build your net worth, while protecting yourself in the long term. Very, Very well done!
Bert
People should feeling pretty good. The current market is cheaper than 1987, 1997, 2007. The only risk right now is the lack of integrity up top.
Hey Sam — nice job… you’ve truly captured the influence of society on all of us. From the time I entered the workforce I’ve “spent” every dime I’ve earned. I’ve forced discipline upon myself by automatically depositing money into my Roth IRA and 401(k), and now also into a brokerage account. Otherwise, I’d probably find something to spend it on — with advertising everywhere, its easy to justify buying pretty much anything.
Lately I’ve been investing long term in sector ETFs. My business website helps to keep me disciplined since all my moves are entirely public knowledge!
I love buying stocks during difficult times. Like Warren Buffett said, you gotta “believe in America”. The U.S. has bounced back from every major bear market. So if the stock market is down 50% and you diversify, by the time the stock market rebounds to old highs you’ll be up 100%!
Isn’t it great how easy it is to get rich? Which stocks were you investing in during the downturn?