Why the Best Real Estate Deals Exist Outside the Frenzy Zone

If you want to find better value when buying a house, avoid the real estate frenzy zone.

The real estate frenzy zone is the price range where the largest number of buyers can compete. It generally spans from the median home price plus about 50%. This is where demand is thickest, emotions run hottest, and buyers routinely overpay.

If you instead move up the housing price curve, just beyond the frenzy zone, demand drops sharply. Fewer qualified buyers means less competition, longer days on market, and better negotiating leverage. In many cases, you end up paying less per square foot for a better property.

Why the Real Estate Frenzy Zone Exists

The frenzy zone exists because of both math and human behavior. Buying real estate is one of the most emotional decisions people make, largely because home is where we spend most of our time. As a result, our hopes, identity, and dreams become deeply intertwined with where we live and sleep.

Homes priced near the median are affordable to the largest number of households, especially dual-income families. Lenders are comfortable underwriting these buyers, the bank of mom and dad are more willing to help with down payments, and buyers psychologically anchor to “reasonable” price points.

Homes priced below the median often sell instantly as first-time buyers with no experience compete aggressively. Homes priced modestly above the median also attract intense demand because buyers stretch, believing it is their “forever home.”

Of course, the challenge is having enough capital to afford a home above the frenzy zone. That may require stretching financially, selling higher-risk assets, or reallocating capital you hadn’t originally planned to use. Maybe you'll have to work extra hard to get that promotion and pay raise before you submit offers. Alternatively, some buyers make their case to parents who are willing to lend the funds to help them clear the next pricing tier.

Lending Standards Make the Frenzy Worse

Tighter lending standards amplify this effect.

Banks increasingly require 720+ credit scores, substantial reserves, and 20% down payments. Jumbo loans are harder to obtain, especially for self-employed buyers or those with variable income.

As a result, competition collapses once prices exceed what most households can comfortably finance. This is where disciplined buyers can strike.

The last thing I want you to do is get into an intense bidding war and have buyer's remorse for beating out a dozen other bidders who weren't willing to pay what you paid.

My First Lesson in Avoiding the Frenzy Zone

In 2004, I was looking to upgrade from a two-bedroom condo to a three-bedroom, two-bathroom condo in San Francisco. I had purchased my first condo in 2003 for $580,000 and a year later, regretted not buying something larger as prices increased.

What I found was brutal.

Every three-bedroom condo priced between $900,000 and $1,400,000 was a feeding frenzy. Properties routinely sold for 10% to 20% over asking after multiple offer battles. After losing several times, I gave up. Emotionally, it was exhausting.

A Lucky Discovery Above the Frenzy Zone

Then one rainy weekend, I stumbled across a single-family home listed at $1,550,000, just above the real estate frenzy zone.

It sat on around the corner from a busy street, but it had three bedrooms, two bathrooms, an in-law unit, a backyard, and a deck. Most importantly, it had been sitting on the market for a month during the winter holiday.

There was almost no competition.

Instead of paying $1.4 million for a $1,300,000 condo at $1,100 per square foot, I bought the house for $1,525,000 at roughly $720 per square foot.

Moving up the price curve delivered a 35% discount per square foot.

Why Nobody Else Bought It

The house was poorly marketed by an out-of-town agent using a flimsy one-page flyer. It was not staged or cleaned, and the owners wanted a rent-back.

In 2004, mortgage rates were near 6%, household incomes were lower, and $1.5 million felt like an impossible psychological barrier. Even the Bank of Mom and Dad had limits.

This is how artificial price ceilings form.

At the time, I never thought I would be able to buy a single-family home in San Francisco given my age and income. Yet this was the cheapest house I could afford just above the frenzy zone, in the best neighborhood I could find. So I took a leap of faith and went all in, getting into contract before my 2004 year-end bonus hit my bank account in early 2005.

After putting down 20%, or $315,000, I would have had almost nothing left. Feeling house rich and cash poor was deeply uncomfortable. But I figured I was young enough at 28 to take the risk. If I lost everything, which I nearly did during the global financial crisis, I would simply grind my way back.

Thankfully, I survived the mass layoffs and ultimately sold the home in 2017 for a profit after nobody wanted to buy it when I first listed it in 2012, the year I retired from finance.

My Second Experience Avoiding the Real Estate Frenzy Zone

In 2019, as we were expecting our second child, we decided it was time to upgrade to a larger home. Coincidentally, a house two doors down was being prepped for sale. It had one additional level and roughly 700 more square feet, bringing the total to about 2,540 square feet. All three levels enjoyed panoramic ocean views, but, like our first home, it was another fixer.

Given the size and location, the listing agent planned to list the home at $1.98 million, hoping to whip up a frenzy and push the price to $2.1 million or higher. At the time, I knew that adding an extra level with comparable views would cost at least $750,000, if not more. From a replacement-cost perspective, the house struck me as excellent value. Further. the house also had about 350 sqft of living expansion potential.

Rather than jumping into a bidding war, I focused on building relationships. I connected with the listing agent and the two adult daughters who had inherited the home. I wrote each of them a thoughtful real estate love letter, explaining that our family was growing and that we hoped to renovate the house and make it our long-term home. We weren’t flippers. We were neighbors who wanted to preserve and improve the property.

In the end, the strategy worked. We purchased the home below the planned list price and avoided the competition entirely. It also helped that we paid cash. True to my word, we modernized the house, moved in, and still own it today.

The City Came After Me

I know we got a great deal because a year later, the city came after me for more money.

The assessor’s office questioned the purchase price, asked for photos documenting the home’s original condition, and even wanted to speak with the listing agent. The city ultimately reassessed the property at a value roughly 15% higher than what I paid to extract more property tax from me.

That fight alone might deserve its own post. It was a complete ordeal.

How the Real Estate Frenzy Zone Has Shifted

Today, the typical San Francisco homebuyer household earns between $400,000 and $800,000 a year. We’re generally talking about dual-income households, many of them in tech. At the same time, the role of the Bank of Mom and Dad in helping adult children buy homes has grown larger than ever.

The reason is straightforward: many of these parents have experienced extraordinary wealth creation over the past 20-plus years through stocks, real estate, and other asset classes. As a result, they now have both the willingness and the ability to help their children bridge the gap between income and today’s housing prices. For adult children with good relationship with their parents, housing affordability has also gone up.

Because of this dynamic, the frenzy zone has shifted upward – from topping out around $1.5 million in 2005 to roughly $3 million today. For three- or four-bedroom, two- or three-bath single-family homes on the west side of San Francisco, buyers in the $2–$3 million range are out in full force.

These buyers are typically fully preapproved, come in with $400,000 – $600,000 down payments, and still have another $100,000 or more in reserves. But the true X-factor is parental support.

Once prices push beyond $3 million, demand thins again as the buyer pool shrinks dramatically. Homes at that level often require $800,000 or more in liquid capital, which eliminates a large number of otherwise high-earning households. Even among top earners with wealthy parents, many hesitate to concentrate that much capital into a single asset far above the median price.

That hesitation is where opportunity begins, if you can afford it.

Example of Battling It Out in the Frenzy Zone Today

Pretend you are a real estate agent looking for a three-bedroom, single-family home or larger for your clients. The clients are a late-30s couple with a two-year-old who both work and earn about $600,000 a year, all in, with about $500,000 for a down payment. They also hope to have another child.

Below is a lovely three-bedroom, two-and-a-half-bath single-family home that listed for $2.495 million in the Inner Sunset neighborhood of San Francisco. It was likely remodeled within the past 15 years and includes an unwarranted game room on the ground level. While the home has no views, it sits on an almost double lot, approximately 4,617 square feet, which is a meaningful differentiator in the neighborhood. The walk score is great.

This would be an ideal home for a family of three, with one bedroom doubling as a guest room or home office. Even though the pandemic is long over, many professionals still work from home one or two days a week – one of the best lasting benefits of the pandemic for working parents. But ideally, this family wants four bedrooms.

At $2.495 million, the home was squarely in the real estate frenzy zone. Given the larger-than-average lot size, you’d reasonably expect it to command a premium relative to homes sitting on standard 2,500-square-foot lots. It also has two-car parking to boot.

Interestingly, the listing agent did not disclose interior square footage. Public records show the home as a two-bedroom, two-bathroom property with 2,525 square feet. However, the unwarranted game room on the lower level was nicely staged and entirely usable. In practical terms, the home likely offered closer to 3,000 square feet of livable space.

Real estate frenzy price zone - unwarranted lower level gaming room
Totally useable lower-level gaming / play room that is unwarranted

How Much Would You Offer for This Home?

If I were representing the buyer, I would have guided toward a maximum offer of $3 million, paired with a $900,000 down payment (+$300,000 help from parents), a 30-day close, and no financing contingency. The extra 500 square feet of usable space certainly adds value. But unwarranted space trades at a discount to permitted living area. Depending on the condition, we're talking about a 30% – 90% discount.

Normally, I would recommend an inspection contingency. But with at least five other bidders in the mix, I likely would have advised waiving it to have a shot. I’ve purchased multiple homes without inspection contingencies by spending hours on-site with licensed professionals before committing. So that is what we'd do in this scenario while also highlighting realistic house-improvement expenses.

Surely, offering 20% above asking with a large down payment and no contingencies would keep us competitive. At the very least, we’d expect a counter.

Wrong like Donkey Kong!

The Final Selling Price Astounds

The house ultimately sold for 60% above asking, closing at $4.05 million. Based on the timeline – going into contract just three days after listing and closing two weeks later – I assume it was an all-cash transaction. Banks simply don’t fund purchases that quickly given underwriting and documentation requirements.

In multiple-bid situations, some buyers lose all sense of restraint. As their vision of living in the home starts to slip away, logic gives way to emotion. And when dreams are on the line, money becomes secondary, especially if you have plenty of it.

Real estate frenzy price zone - kitchen and dining room area home in Inner sunset on 9th avenue sold for $4,050,000

The buyers have effectively reset pricing for comparable three-bedroom, two-and-a-half-bath homes in the neighborhood. There’s a real possibility they bought at or near the top of the market and could experience a loss if they need to sell within the next three to five years.

On the other hand, if anticipated IPOs from companies like OpenAI, Anthropic, Databricks, SpaceX, and other major tech firms materialize, a new surge of liquidity could push San Francisco real prices to even higher levels. That’s the bet they’re making.

Real estate frenzy price point to avoid - backyard of $4,050,000 home

When my fictitious clients are disappointed after losing by $1.05 million, I try to reframe the outcome. Being that far off means we were never truly in the game to begin with. Strategically, I’d much rather guide buyers toward homes in the $3–$3.5 million range, where competition drops off sharply and rational pricing re-enters the picture.

That’s where opportunity tends to live.

And if you so happen to own a home in this neighborhood, enjoy the feel-good wealth effect this latest home sale provides. With the permanence and stability of real estate, you should feel much wealthier than if having a larger stock portfolio.

Mega overbid in San Francisco Inner Sunset neighborhood - Get out of the real estate frenzy zone to get better value - 1640 9th Avenue
Mega overbid

Your Home Buying Mission

If you are buying near all-time highs, you must be strategic.

Avoid the real estate frenzy zone (median price + about 50%) where any dual-income household can compete. That is where value is lowest and risk is highest.

Instead:

  • Move one price tier higher than you are comfortable with
  • Look for stale listings that scare other buyers
  • Use the spray n' pray method to make multiple offers given each offer takes less than 5 minutes for you to sign
  • Focus on price points that buyers resist psychologically
  • Predict the Future Frenzy Zone for the neighborhood you want to buy

Common resistance levels include $500,000, $1 million, $1.5 million, $2 million, $2.5 million, $3 million, $3.5 million, $5 million and beyond.

If you are willing to move up the housing price curve, you will be surprised by how much better value you can find once you escape the real estate frenzy zone. Best of luck out there!

Readers, are you willing to look one tier above the real estate frenzy zone to find better value – just as you’re willing to eat lunch at 1:30 p.m. to avoid the crowds or leave after 7 p.m. to miss rush-hour traffic? Or will you try to buy in the price range everyone else can afford and simply hope your bid comes out on top? What's the real estate price frenzy zone in your area?

Invest In Real Estate Without The Competitive Frenzy

After several years of underperformance, real estate is finally looking attractive, at least from a capital preservation perspective. Valuations have compressed, transaction volume remains muted, and many sellers are still anchored to yesterday’s prices. Historically, this is the phase when patient capital tends to do best.

One option worth exploring is Fundrise, which enables you to invest passively in residential and industrial real estate across the country. With around $3 billion in assets under management, Fundrise focuses heavily on Sunbelt markets – areas with lower entry prices, improving fundamentals, and the potential to benefit as real estate cycles turn over the next several years.

For investors seeking more asymmetrical upside, Fundrise Venture offers exposure to private technology and AI companies such as OpenAI, Anthropic, and Databricks. Venture is inherently higher risk, but also where the most explosive growth tends to occur, especially as artificial intelligence reshapes productivity and the labor markets.

Fundrise investment balance Financial Samurai 2026
I’ve personally invested over $500,000 with Fundrise, and they’ve been a long-time sponsor and trusted partner of Financial Samurai. With a $10 minimum investment, it’s one of the easiest ways to balance defense and offense in your portfolio, without relying on winning a bidding war or getting bailed out by the Bank of Mom and Dad.
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Trading (way) up
6 days ago

Thanks Sam, nice analysis. Do you have thoughts about buying high-end properties in SF ($8-12M?) It seems these tend to sit on the market longer. Do you think the proposed billionaire tax is scaring people away?

Sky
Sky
8 days ago

Hi Sam,
I like where your head is at. This AI liquidity scene may be a rising tide scenario. Question on the FundRise Innovation Fund…what do you think about them attempting to list on the NYSE (VCX)? If they get the Shareholder Vote, which I’m assuming they will, any concerns about this CEF trading at a discount to NAV for an extended period of time? I feel like it may go either way or perhaps it’s a moot point if you’re hold period is longer than 5yrs. Curious on your thoughts as you know how Ben thinks.

Sky
Sky
8 days ago

Very cool. Timing is good.

I think you’re estimates are spot on (like normal), however, DXYZ was a bit of different animal/time period. The hype was definitely real & perhaps there’s a bit more info out there now on how to increase exposure to these high growth private businesses (Ark’s Venture, etc.) I think it would still be a good case study & comparison for VCX. Good news is I think it still trades at premium to NAV.

My only pause/reservation is management’s motivation for shifting gears.

The obvious motivations for going the CEF (close-end fund) route is easy to see.

Permanent capital, higher fees, follow-on offerings, etc.

The less obvious ones (which may not even be an issue) could be current valuation credibility (as the fund grows, perhaps more scrutiny on their valuations), potential volatility coming that we can’t see (Hence prepping for a rush of redemptions), or maybe it’s as simple as they want to grow AUM & capitalize on the AI tsunami! One item to watch though is if they’ll commit to buybacks when/if it trades at a discount.

All in all, I think the early investors will still fare well.

Brett
Brett
7 days ago

I have been looking over the fundrise offering a lot a long term investor with a closed end fund run by the former CFO of Palantir who has access to a lot of great VC deals and most our co sponsors are funds like Founders Fund and Red Cell etc. I have yet to see Fundrise on any of our Cap tables and was wondering do they go under a different name or do they get in later rounds. We have been involved in companies such as Valinor, Astranis, Peregrine, Oxidate, Northslope, Gecko, Cyera etc and as I contemplate investing in the Fundrise offerings I just dont see them on those kind of Cap tables. Do they operate under a different name or can you give insight to their deal flow? So far every company we have been involved in since 2022 has higher NAV based on future fundraising rounds as the metric of valuation.

Brett
Brett
7 days ago

No I was just listing the companies that our sponsor has got us in for an example if thr caliber of companies. The sponsor goes under the name Friends and Family and seem to have a solid line on great deals. I am sure fundrise would benefit from being in some of those companies though. I am not in tech so just count on them to pick the deals in the fund and the SPV’s. The main thing I look at are who is on the cap table and with the managers close relationships with founders fund they are typically co investors along with a lot of valley big guns. It’s the only way I can truly get a handle on the caliber of investments we get offered. I like the idea of fundrise in principle but just haven’t seen them in any of the deals we do( and I know there are a ton of deals) so just thought I would ask as you seem to really like their offerings etc

Brett
Brett
7 days ago

So far everything has been marked up based off the next round some by a substantial amount. I feel lucky to be investing alongside founders fund, red cell etc. but still no liquidity events just values based on the next round

Brett
Brett
7 days ago

And I hope so too. The vast majority of the deals we are in are through what I would call the thiel, palantir, founders fund network

Sky
Sky
7 days ago

May shift over to your recent post. Nice work btw. I’m pretty sure Ark’s Venture fund isn’t an ETF & it’s shares are just issued/redeemed at NAV. Therefore, no premiums or discounts. PS – I do like how Cathie Wood thinks though. She’s got a price target on Tesla at $2600!! How many Optimus robots are you buying for the house!? Lol.

Kevin
Kevin
9 days ago

Hey Sam, quick question on how these ideas connect. In a previous post you suggested keeping housing to ~20% of net worth. For someone with $3M, that’s about a $600K home, which would imply targeting markets with ~$400K medians under the +50% rule. Those markets exist, but they can be fairly limited depending on family and lifestyle needs. Would love to hear how you reconcile these two guidelines in practice.

Matt
Matt
8 days ago
Reply to  Kevin

Kevin, Haha I’m glad to see a comment from someone else who is constantly trying to calibrate all these guidelines together and then engineer a path to it! Very thoughtful in the way you are working through it.

If you are trying to think through things these things this way (which I do as well), I really recommend Sam’s book if you don’t already have it (i have no connection/benefit from it) Buy This Not That, since it is helpful to have these detailed guidelines by age/income/wealth so you can make a plan that works for where you are now and as you progress through levels of wealth/lifestyle.

It helps in doing exactly what you are asking in terms of how the ideas connect and making those decisions/tradeoffs over time (it’s the best PF book I’ve read for that kind of thing).

Also….Atlanta has a median home price of approx. $400k!

Last edited 8 days ago by Matt
Kevin
Kevin
8 days ago
Reply to  Matt

Thanks for the recommendation, Matt! I’ve actually read both of Sam’s books from my local library, and as a true Financial Samurai reader, I couldn’t resist reading them for free Now I’m trying to take it a step further by keeping housing under 20% of net worth while still applying the +50% rule.

Geoff
Geoff
9 days ago

Wow! I’m sure you realize Sam that the numbers in the SF market are insane compared to most of the rest of the county. It’s also obviously only related to salaries in the area but the principals apply anywhere. Supply and demand, that’s it. What’s very important to note is that any buyer with a mortgage must get through an appraisal or pay the difference between the appraised amount and the contract price. I still think reasonable prices exist outside the most desirable locations and eventually those locations a little farther out will appreciate in value, especially with the ability to remote work now. That house is a beauty though, good for them if they can afford it. That house in my nice midwest suburb would probably be around $1mm and buyers would probably have salaries around $250k-$300k.

KO
KO
9 days ago

This house is the talk of the town. How does the city handle notoriously unpermitted structures and additions?

We recently put a bid of 1.53M on a VA house listed at 1.6M. it sold for 1.69M. The house needed work and the flipper upgrades would probably have to go as well, we were not willing to overpay.

A month after closing the buyer reached out to our agent to see if we were interested in purchasing from her! Apparently it was more of a project than she bargained for.

The frenzy is real.